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Zero Contradictions's avatar

I think that the argument made by Lindsay's defense isn't completely comparable to Nikolas Cruz's claim about "demons". Lindsay's desire for homicide-suicide may have been affected by medications that she had been taking, whereas Cruz's actions were not. Cruz had displayed anti-social behavior throughout his entire life, so anti-social and homicidal behavior is clearly intrinsic to his nature.

Lindsay might've acted differently if she had different medical treatment, but that still doesn't excuse her from murder:

- She might've still killed the children even if she never took the medications.

- She had weeks to speak up and get sent a psychiatric ward away from the victims.

- She needs to be punished for game-theoretical reasons, i.e. to discourage similar crimes.

The prosecution should state Anglo's argument during the next trial.

Amalek, The Golem Melter's avatar

"Treatment and humane confinement can be justified directly."

Not in reality they can't. Most people want the most violent criminals to be executed that's why almost no place on earth removed the death penalty through referendum (Ireland is the only exception I know of and even there they only did it to make it illegal for England to execute IRA members).

The current prison system is a function of profits, the public would greatly prefer that many of the current inmates would be in coffins, yet the state prefers to undercut the wages of workers with the "sweat equity" of prisoners.

The arguments against what the people want have never "won a debate" instead they were imposed on the populace.

Unless you're going to argue treatment and confinement can be profitable for the ruling class you won't get their support (the only support that really matters) and the masses are a tough sell since they already see the current system as 'soft' and want to go the opposite direction entirely

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